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And if you did read, i saw these engines with my own eyes, and one when racing, 230, you dont have experience when it comes to beating cars, thats why you said yourself that you learn from exhuast note, yeah, in your case , when your behind a car.
The Cordia master is always infront./
No your right and it's mainly because i drive a cordia

but it's also because i don't care.
I got depressed the other day. I came up behind an F360 from queen st. He was driving it tamely at first but then he had to pass a bus so he gave it a bit. Then i got caught at a red and he got through and about a k and a half up the road i can still hear the thing when it accelerates. I'm sure he had on a set of different exhausts because the note was just phenomenal. And i just went "sigh", put my pos in first and thought to myself how absolutley crap every other car is in comparison. Nothing else looks or sounds even remotely as good. Then a ricer 180sx burbled past me and it really did sound half-arsed. Even a skyline sounds second-rate. And then 2 bogans in a commonwhore raced up the road to try and catch it (friends of roger) and that made me laugh, or cry, i can't remember which. They are all like toy engines compared to the modena. And thats why i got depressed. No matter how much you try with a jap engine it doesn't get within a hundred miles of what the italians can produce. And then you dodger talk this crap up. Mate, you need your head read. Your backyard tinkering on old, cheap, third rate machinery is nothing to be proud of.
But as long as you THINK your in front, thats all that matters eh?